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The Puzzle - Resubmit by levite The Puzzle - Resubmit by levite
Resubmitted to meet standards. Original was removed for non-compliance.
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The Bible is a puzzle, all parts fit perfectly! - I am a Bible Theology teacher, this is my quote to my students as they start.

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ArtisticWarrior0 Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2013  Professional General Artist
This is cool!
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levite Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2013   Artist
:)
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fROSEn24 Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
i so want this shirt
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levite Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013   Artist
:)
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fROSEn24 Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
im dead serious
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GohanLuvVidel Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
thats pretty crafty! cool!
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levite Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012   Artist
Thanks! :)
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Sevslover6195 Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Amen!
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levite Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2012   Artist
:)
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LightPony Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2012
So true. Thank you a lot for this. ^^
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levite Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2012   Artist
GBU... thanks!
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LightPony Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2012
You're welcome. ^^
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NotesFromMrKangaroo Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Amen
Thanks for helping spread the word! :)
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levite Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2012   Artist
Thank you for your words of encouragement...
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purple-whirlpool Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2012
Love it :clap:
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Tsurechr Featured By Owner May 25, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
I really admire your strength to fight of all trolls and haters.
Especially those who aren't commenting with their "brains". They just hate haha..
Well... Just wanted to tell you!
God Bless you! :D
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levite Featured By Owner May 25, 2012   Artist
:hug:
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BrigetteJanine Featured By Owner May 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Absolutely love this. Keep spreading the Good Word. :iconclingtothecrossplz:
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levite Featured By Owner May 19, 2012   Artist
:hug:
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yami-joey Featured By Owner May 19, 2012  Student General Artist
Hi there! I am voting for yah! :meow:
Check out the links below(in my sig) if you want to vote for me, too. ^_^
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Nightshade678 Featured By Owner May 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I LOVE THIS SHIRT!!!!!!! ^_^
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levite Featured By Owner May 17, 2012   Artist
:hug:
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Nightshade678 Featured By Owner May 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
*glomps* GOD BLESS YOU!!!!
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levite Featured By Owner May 17, 2012   Artist
GBU 2 :)
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PinkiePie21 Featured By Owner May 15, 2012
Okay, I don't know a lot about religion, almost nothing at all in fact, so could I ask you some questions to help me understand, since you study it, and you know so much about it?
Most of all, the Adam and Eve story really confuses me. There is obvious evidence that people evolved from apes, and that we evolved all the characteristics of humanity told in Adam and Eve bit by bit to adjust to our environment. You can tell by preserved versions of primitive ape/humans. You can see the timeline of the evolution of people in skulls, if you line up human skulls from lots of different time periods. I've seen these in documentaries and in museums. Evolution makes perfect sense too. If you die, you can't pass on your traits, so mutations that allow you to live get passed on. Does the bible say that evolution is fake, because I can't see how it could be. We do it all the time by breeding animals for traits. Thats how we have so many different dogs, only thats human initiated, not natural selection.
Oh, I got this from Wikipedia (I know its not the most trusted source, but this seems to make perfect sense.)

"In terms of human genetics, the concept that all humans descended from two historical persons is improbable. Genetic evidence indicates humans descended from a group of at least 10,000 people due to the amount of human genetic variation.[18] If all humans descended from two individuals several thousand years ago, as Young Earth creationism supposes, it would require an impossibly high mutation rate to account for the observed variation.[18] This has caused some religious practitioners to move away from a literal interpretation and belief in the Adam and Eve creation myth.[18] Other literalists continue to believe in what they see as a fundamental doctrine of the Christian faith."
This part of Christianity has me utterly bewildered. Everything contradicts itself! Could you help explain how all this could be possible at the same time?
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levite Featured By Owner May 16, 2012   Artist
Your concern is quite valid. The reason for your confusion relates to different "theological" theoretical and/or hypothetical positions that exist within Christianity and Creationism as it relates to the Genesis account. Just as in Science, there are several positions trying to explain the origin and development of the Universe, so we have in the Genesis Account. They range from those who believe in Theistic Evolution, Old Earth Creationist, Young Earth Creationist, Day-Age Theory, Progressive Creation, Gap Theory, Interval Time Theory, etc. etc. The quote you provide is from the Theistic Evolution camp.

It is understood that the differences within the body regarding Creation events are what we call (for lack-of-better term) "non-essential" issues not affecting the salvation of the Christian, just as other issues in Christianity as Eschatology (Future events to come), Baptism, etc. are not considered by the majority as "essential" doctrines.

I hope this helps.
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kimamila101 Featured By Owner May 12, 2012  Student General Artist
There are thousands of holes in the bible...it's like Swiss Cheese. Just because you think something is explained by myths and stories doesn't mean it is. That is what you should teach your students.
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levite Featured By Owner May 12, 2012   Artist
I welcome challenges as yours... make sure you "do" know what you are talking about prior to engaging a conversation, as it becomes obvious by your comment that you "are" lacking.
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kimamila101 Featured By Owner May 12, 2012  Student General Artist
Your powers of quotation marks make me quake with fear.
Just because you believe something does not make it right. I am not saying you are wrong, I am just saying that it would not hurt you to broaden your rather narrow horizons and to encourage your students to do so as well. I am surprised that someone old enough to be teaching a class has not learned this before now.
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levite Featured By Owner May 13, 2012   Artist
Kindly apply your own words in an effort to be more tolerant, remembering that we do not tolerate people with whom we agree; we tolerate people with whom we disagree. Therefore, as it becomes obvious that I disagree with you, let me fill you in some facts. The subject matter I choose to quote, is not a hobby to me; it is a subject matter that not only I have earned a degree on but have also taught at a theological level. I do not say this to be a prick or snob who thinks he knows it all, I say it hopes to making you understand that I know what I am speaking about. My students and I are equally exposed to skeptic thought, we do not live in bubbles away from a cybernetic world that exposes us to all lines of thought - this is 2012 and we do not live in a remote region of the world. Therefore, if you see me defend and challenge any skeptic thought it may be because I am quite confident that the skeptic thought is quite ignorant or misinformed of what they speak against. I am very willing to back up what I have quoted.
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kimamila101 Featured By Owner May 13, 2012  Student General Artist
And I believe that the un-skeptical live in a fairy-tale dream world of their own devising.
The point is, that there are different ways of seeing everything, including religion. Perhaps especially religion. Just because you are not a skeptic does not mean that those who are are ignorant, and by implying that we are, you have just contradicted what some of your earlier statements implied. It is because you do not live in a little bubble that you should be open to others thoughts and ideas. Calling the people to which those thoughts and ideas belong ignorant is not a display of tolerance.
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levite Featured By Owner May 13, 2012   Artist
Hmmm. last I checked, you can go to any library and see that Jesus Christ lived. However, I challenge the skeptic's belief as either fatalistic or a fairytale itself. Let us talk about the origin of the universe and if you are a naturalist, explain it to me. If unable, you may believe in wishful thinking and I doubt that if attempted it will not boil down to illogical thought. Go ahead, let's see who believes in a fairytale.

Calling what is obviously ignorant by means of expertise has nothing to do with intolerance. However, if you wish to prove me wrong you are welcome. Thus far, I do not see an attempt from your part. Therefore, lets demonstrate the same or part our ways ;).
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kimamila101 Featured By Owner May 13, 2012  Student General Artist
Well, that is your belief and opinion, which you are entitled to.
The way the universe came to be is rather controversial, however, I believe this: The universe evolved from the Big Bang, which occurred before time existed. Therefore, the universe could not have been created by a god because there was no time in which the god could exist before the Big Bang, which can be explained by quantum mechanics. Basically, all the matter in the universe, positive and negative was contained in a very small, concentrated mass. This mass then burst, expanding like a rubber band that is being stretched. The mass that it was contained in was like a Black Hole, in which time does not exist. Basically, there was no time for a god to exist so he or she could not have created the universe. That is not to say that there is not Something or Somewhere, but rather to say that there are many facets of various religions which can be disproven with modern science.
On the topic of Jesus, I am not saying he did not exist. I am sure that he existed, was Jewish and then created a set of ideals which morphed into Christianity as we know it today. I do not doubt the person who called himself Jesus existed. What is in question is if he was some divine being. That being said, there have been many people who claimed to be divine through out history. Look at any major empire or dynasty and you will see such occurrences of claiming divine favor or even of being divine, such as the "Mandate of Heaven" in China. People believed these claims, but you and I now know that this was utter BS created as a kind of propaganda method. Who is to say that Jesus was not one of these people who claimed to be divine or was claimed to be divine when he was little more than an ordinary man.
Because of the changing of society, the old beliefs of our society have had to be modified or thrown out all together, or else rejected. The Bible has been rewritten thousands of times.

I was not attempting to prove you wrong out of respect, but if you wish to get into a debate, there it was. I am sorry if you disagree with me and decide to continue your narrow-view of the world, but I will not have you flaunting your I-believe-I-have-all-the-answers-and-am-being-rather-self-contradictory attitude without attempting to change your mind.
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levite Featured By Owner May 13, 2012   Artist
Well, I give you credit for an attempt. However, let us examine your attempt.

First, the question did not ask to explain the universe, but its "origin". While it is true that we understand that the BB is a reasonable attempt to explain how we have arrived to today in time and space, your statement "The universe evolved from the Big Bang, which occurred before time existed." Is the first error - there is no evidence of ANY matter, energy, time, space, quantum fluctuations, etc. etc, prior to the BB, as such thing in itself as the term "before" would be meaningless if time in fact did not exist. What we do understand is that the singularity took place, but what caused the singularity when there is no time, space, energy, matter, etc? If nature did not exist, we can easily logically conclude that nature did not cause the singularity. Therefore, your initial premise is false.

Second, God is eternal and not bound by time or space. If it were not so, He would not fit the criteria as Omnipotent, Omniscient, and more importantly Omnipresent. God exists in an eternal present unrelated to time/space/dimension. Therefore, your second premise is false. Often, this mistake is made by those who do not understand the basic definition of God.

Basically, all the matter in the universe, positive and negative was contained in a very small, concentrated mass. This mass then burst, expanding like a rubber band that is being stretched. The mass that it was contained in was like a Black Hole, in which time does not exist.


Nothing existed prior to the singularity, no "exotic matter", no mass, no energy, no time, no space... Therefore, no black holes. Error #3

That is not to say that there is not Something or Somewhere...


You see the problem your explanation is facing is that NOTHING "natural" existed... NOTHING! Nothing can be accounted prior to the singularity (for lack of better term, as we just explained that "prior" becomes nonexistent). As nothing "natural" existed and yet we understand that our Universe DOES exist, this means that logically, something beyond "nature" is responsible for our Universe, or what is referred to logically in the subject, something Supernatural or beyond nature. Here it is where we demonstrate that naturalistic thought is illogical, when you try to fit nature into something beyond nature which is necessary. Therefore, you may choose personally to mentally deny that God created or caused the Universe to exist, but not because it is illogical, but simply because you "choose" or refuse to deny the same. However, logic dictates that the Supernatural is "required" and guess who fits those parameters, of being beyond nature, being Supernatural? God does.

LET'S TALK ABOUT JESUS

What is in question is if he was some divine being.


In order to question this, one must look at the evidence. As no cameras existed at the time, what we have is historic record. Surprisingly, (not really), the Bible (the New Testament) is a historic record of some eyewitnesses. There is enormous account which have been proven to stand judicial trial and hold solid ground. Therefore, as we are speaking of "evidence" to the contrary, just saying, well no, it did not happen, would not be enough. The evidence is in favor of the reality accounted for.

there have been many people who claimed to be divine through out history...


This is very true... How many do the witnesses account for resurrecting from the dead, just as He said and corroborated by eyewitnesses? I know Jesus did :)

Because of the changing of society, the old beliefs of our society have had to be modified or thrown out all together, or else rejected.


Not to use an argumentum ad-populum, but to address your specific comment, sorry, but I live in the USA and all in all, 82.5% of Americans have some form of religious identity. 95% of those believe after more than 2000 that Jesus Christ is alive and well. (Evidential Source: [link] ). Therefore, these old beliefs must be strong for a logical reason - they must be true.

The Bible has been rewritten thousands of times.


You confirmed my suspicion. You have no idea what you are speaking about by repeating a common erroneous argument. Our advantage today is the technology allows us to see original manuscripts at our finger tips. The internet has indeed helped us. I suggest you study more on the Bible's reliability of its manuscripts... once you get TRUE information, you might be astonished at the overwhelming bibliographic reliability of the Bible as being clearly evident.

The issue is not one of attempting to prove wrong or not, but barking up the wrong tree. It is as debating with the car mechanic about engines, when it is obvious that it is not your trade.
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Shadoweddancer Featured By Owner May 8, 2012   Digital Artist
Amen! I'd wear this.
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Awesome :hug:
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pandymeez Featured By Owner May 8, 2012   General Artist
I'm so happy to see a biblical shirt that doesn't bash Christians! I love it! :la:
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levite Featured By Owner May 8, 2012   Artist
GBU & thanks!!! It is all about HIM
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Amen! :hug:
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Great. Voted!



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